The question before us is this: are there ontological differences between men and women? Is there is a hierarchy of being among men and women? By divine design there are natural differences but are those differences well described by using the category ontology? I doubt it. Along the way we end up discussing Thomas Aquinas, Duns Scotus, nature and grace, and what Paul wrote to the Ephesians, to Timothy about ministers, elders, and deacons, and how to interpret Scripture (the clear interprets the less clear).